reason why god doesnt exist

[Graham]

1. god is perfect
2. perfect beings make perfect things
3. god made the world
4. the world is not perfect
5. therefore, god is not perfect

to all you who say that man is the one who screwed things up (an assumption laden with such hubris that i don't even know what to think about it)

1. god is perfect
2. perfect beings make perfect things
3. god made man
4. man is not perfect
5. therefore, god is not perfect

now, some of you religionists may say that god did not make man to be perfect but rather to be the "best" at whatever it is people are designed to do. however, in the christian world-view "whatever it is people are designed to do" is defined as love or submit to the will of god. if you deny this statement, then i encourage you to come up with another reason god had for creating man that eludes me...

[Stargate]

I believe in God, I just do not go to church. = \

Either way, let people believe what they want as long as they do not break the law in the name of their religion.

[Diiimn]

I've never heard that god is perfect. Just an observation.

[Graham]

just trying to spark some conversation, lol

[Fighter1405]

It is a common christian belief that God is perfect but it is generally accepted that evil can be explained with several things

1. Evil is a test from God of mans faith
2. Evil is a punishment for mans sin (see below)
3. Evil is a direct result of mans sin (see below)
4. Evil is caused by the devil, who used free will to disobey God
5. We cannot understand God's motivation but he is working to a master plan
6. Evil does not exist as an entity in itself, but is instead a lack of good (We need evil to appreciate good)

Why man would be allowed to sin is interesting, but it is generally explained by the idea that God gave man free will to do what he wants and so God cannot prevent us doing sin. He gave us free will so we could be ourselves in our own right, and not just be a robot

[Skullking]

2. perfect beings make perfect things

you got that completely wrong, Perfect beings cannot make perfect things, they can only make imperfect things, god made Beelzebub and look what he did? he turned half of his "angles" against him, hence "demons"
then "he made" the world and humans and look what they done, and what we still doing
btw giving humans free will was his second stuff up, his first was giving Beelzebub free will
also i do not believe in God, but i do not think he doesn't exist
and i agree with stargate

[homie]

2. perfect beings make perfect things
You got that wrong, I mean Nintendo made Mario Party 8 :P

[Fighter1405]

Originally Posted by homie

2. perfect beings make perfect things
You got that wrong, I mean Nintendo made Mario Party 8 :P

Too true, too true. Whether or not nintendo is perfect though is another matter

[Skullking]

perfect make perfect, that dont make any sense
talk to any priest or something and they will tell you they cannot
also so would anyone who has any knowledge in the fact like scholars or whatever they are called will tell
that there is know why a perfect being to make one of it self, it would like cloning which in that is imperfect
it just can not happen

as Mario Party 8 i have not played it but i can tell you that Nintendo is not perfect
well over 3/4 of its games are crap/disappointments and ripoffs

[Steamers]

Amen to that